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Introducing Still Paying the Price: Reparations in Real Terms

Episode Notes

The newest narrative podcast from LWC Studios is out now! “Still Paying the Price: Reparations in Real Terms” is a 14-part series exploring how reparations should be paid and to whom. This podcast is meant to be enjoyed in an order that makes the most sense for our listeners. You can begin by listening to this episode or wherever you find your podcasts–-and start your own reparations exploration.

For more information, all episodes, and transcripts visit StillPayingThePricePod.com.

Original score by Kojin Tashiro. Cover art: "Gemini" by Fitgi Saint-Louis.

This series was funded by a grant from The John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation.

Episode Transcription

Juleyka Lantigua: Hi, everybody. This is Juleyka Lantigua. I'm the executive producer of this show. I want to personally invite you to listen to our new documentary series. It's called Still Paying The Price. It is an in-depth exploration of the question of reparations: who should receive them, how should they be handled, what is owed? We talked to incredible people whose very lives have been dedicated to answering this question and to people who have a very clear sense of what needs to be done and for whom. If you have an opinion, if you don't know anything about it, this is a great place to begin the exploration. So listen to Still Paying The Price anywhere you listen to this show or go to our website at stillpayingthepricepod.com. Thank you. 

Pamela Kirkland: It was a simple promise…

John Boyd: We didn’t get 40 acres and a mule. 

Kirkland: As the country grapples with how to right the wrongs of history, the call for reparations only grows louder. For the descendants of the enslaved, it’s time to collect on that debt. 

Kimberly Nichole: America was built on this entire system of using the free labor of stolen bodies from Africa.

Kirkland: I'm Pamela Kirkland, a journalist and co-editor of "Still Paying the Price: Reparations in Real Terms.” This series from LWC Studios goes beyond conversations about whether or not reparations SHOULD be paid, but HOW and TO WHOM.

Darrin Bell: You can go on hating Black people if you want to, just cut the check.

Kirkland: We uncover stories that have been buried, stories that reveal the profound impact of the ugly history on which this country was built. From a civil rights cold case…

Karlos K. Hill: Setting the record straight. “Death Ruled Justifiable”, that's the headline. That headline needs to be changed to "Unjustly Killed."

Kirkland: To another NASA “Hidden Figure”…

Dr. Cynthia Vernón: I think we are all owed something, but…it's gonna have to be paid forward…

Kirkland: To one man’s journey to uncover the painful history his family hid for decades. 

Reginald Crawford: I said, "my grandfather killed himself." And she said, "The hell he did. The white folks killed your grandfather."

Kirkland: We hear from individuals who are grappling with what reparations should look like.

Cheryl Grills: If you believe the Pledge of Allegiance, liberty, and justice for all, then you're gonna have to reconcile how those principles have or have not been applied to the wrongs done to Black folk.

Kirkland: And how the spirit of the ancestors still guide their descendants today.

Mia Anderson: I think it's a power in knowing that I'm a descendant and that blood runs through me. It gives me a power to tap into.

Kirkland: Listen to “Still Paying the Price” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anywhere you listen to podcasts. Get all episodes and supporting materials at StillPayingthePricePod.com. This series was funded by a grant from The John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation.